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Six Flags Magic Mountain Trip Report For 13 Jul 2014

By on 07/15/2014

It’s been about a month or so since I did an official Six Flags Magic Mountain trip report, so I knew I was past due. I was really going over to see the magic show, but I decided to take a quick loop around the park as long as I was there. If I had to sum up my entire visit in one word, it would have to be “hot!”

I typically arrive at the park shortly before opening and I get a parking spot right up front. Since I didn’t arrive until around 2:30 pm, the entire parking lot was full and I was herded way out to the gravel overflow lot. I have been past this lot before, on my way to the administration building, but I had never actually had to park way out here. This lot is separated from the park and the main parking lot by a large drainage canal and a couple of chain link fences. This road is in front of the overflow lot and leads to the employee parking lot and the admin building:


Once I got out of my car, I had absolutely no idea which way to go. There were no signs and nobody directing us where to go. Other guests looked confused as well. After a minute or so, I saw some people walking up the road so I followed them. There was eventually a break in the fence and a bridge over the canal, leading to the main parking lot. There is a very clear sign that says “No Guest Access,” but I guess we’re supposed to just ignore that. It was a decent size walk from where I parked to the third bus stop, which is just past Scream’s cobra roll:


It was 105 degrees outside when I arrived at the park, so by the time I got to the bus stop, I was already dripping sweat. It was only about a five minute wait for the next bus to arrive, but it sure was hot sitting there in that afternoon sun.

On the bus ride in, our driver (Donovan) announced that there was two hours of evening ERT that night on both Revolution and Viper after the park closed, as long as you were a Discover card holder or had a Six Flags season pass. The sign at the main gate confirmed that:


The Full Throttle Plaza got some new paint on the ground and it looked good. The old paint had faded quite a bit and was hardly noticeable. The misters in the center of the plaza were very popular, as you can tell by the cluster of people gathered there:


This was actually done awhile ago, but I don’t think I ever commented on it. While I detest smoking, and would prefer the entire park to be smoke free, I do appreciate the fact that smokers must use designated smoking areas while in the park. This is a really nice smoking area behind the Full Throttle Sports Bar. It used to be just a portable bench put in front of an old path for the defunct monorail station. I’d like to see more sitting areas like this all over the park, preferably in the shade, for non-smokers:


Who remembers this guy from in front of the Log Jammer viewing area in High Sierra Territory? He now sits in front of the Canyon Blaster roller coaster in Bugs Bunny World:


While I was walking through Bugs Bunny World, it seemed to be fairly busy. As I walked past the Carrot Club Theater, I noticed there was a show going on inside. I didn’t have time to stop and watch, but I did take a quick peek. Unfortunately, there were hardly any kids at the show and the poor emcee was having a hard time getting a volunteer to come up on stage. I hope it was just the heat that was keeping people away. I’ve long been a proponent of bringing a kids show back to this stage, but we all know what’s going to happen if nobody attends it:


Yay! They finally realized that the blue tube goes on the right side:


As reported by others, the Batman seats are indeed purple now. Our friend Gregg over at Park Journey says that these are the trains from Batman at Six Flags Over Texas, which is now running the backwards trains. SFMM had received the bare backwards chassis from Six Flags Great America and had to transfer their seat assemblies from the forward chassis to the backwards chassis. That’s why the ride was down for so long before it started running backwards. Gregg says that SFMM just swapped the entire backwards train for SFOT’s forward train to minimize the down time. If that’s the case, how does SFMM eventually get their trains back, or do they? Will SFOT do the same kind of swap with whatever park gets the backwards trains next? Does anybody know? That just seems like such an expensive option to ship entire trains when only the special backwards chassis is needed, but I guess it’s possible. It’s just a shame if that’s the case, given that the color scheme on each installation is different:


As I was leaving Batman, I stopped and listened to the Street Drum Corp doing their thing. They were OK drummers, but their act didn’t seem to have much spark. Once setup, they just started playing with no announcement. I didn’t see many people paying them much attention. I think part of that was because they setup in front of the tables where people were eating their lunch. They needed to be over by the main midway, where there was a lot of foot traffic to draw from. They also need some sort of routine or gimmick where they engage with the crowd and get people interested. Shouting in unison, counting off, telling jokes…something to grab people’s attention and get them to watch. Frankly, I got a little bored after a few minutes and left:


The old car that is serving as part of the #FarewellColossus campaign has a rather thick covering of dust all over it that people are using to write graffiti, obscenities, and the like. I just can’t even fathom how many Six Flags employees walk by this every single day and not one of them thinks “Hmmm, maybe I should dust that off.” All it takes is one rag, about 60 seconds of time, and a little bit of pride:


It was now time for the main purpose of my visit, which was to finally see Michael Turco’s Magic and Mayhem show in the Magic Moments Theater. People started lining up about 20 minutes early:


The magic show was awesome! It’s only there until August 17th, so if you haven’t seen it yet, go now. A bonus is that the theater is ice cold, so it’s a great place to cool down. For more information on the show, check out my Magic and Mayhem overview.

With a day this hot, Jet Stream was open and busy! The entire lower queue was full and the line was out the entrance. The ride had been closed due to the recent incident with Ninja, but it looks like it opened back up just in time:


After a tree fell on the Ninja track, I expected to see some serious tree thinning all over Ninja. However, I really didn’t see much difference anywhere. That doesn’t mean they didn’t do anything, it’s just not visible from the midway. Here is a tree that was seriously trimmed close to the Jet Stream lift hill:


Peeking through the trees, I was just able to make out another tree that was trimmed next to Ninja:


I’m no arborist, nor do I play one on TV, so don’t read much into this. As I was walking around the hill, looking at the various trees, I was amazed at how many of them grow at severe angles. I always thought trees tended to grow straight up, regardless of the ground angle. However, a lot of the trees that I saw on the hillside were growing at angles. The tree in this next photo was growing at almost a 45 degree angle. I would think a tree would eventually get so heavy that it would pull itself right over. No? I guess the roots are a lot stronger than I realized:


The path from Apocalypse to Roaring Rapids was back open following the Ninja incident:


Unfortunately, Jet Stream is still leaking like a sieve. Both the hillside and the midway were being bathed in constantly leaking water. A few of the white Ninja support columns you see in the distance are standing in pools of accumulated water from Jet Stream leaks:


I think I finally got the answer I was looking for with regards to the paint on top of the Full Throttle loop. It’s a measurement system that is used to appease the State of California. In the extremely unlikely event that a Full Throttle train gets perfectly balanced and stuck at the top of the loop, this paint will act as a visual indicator as to which side of top dead center (red) more of the train is leaning so they know which direction to push it so that gravity can take over again:


I know what some of you are thinking – “Won’t it be perfectly centered when that happens?” No. Due to the weight configuration of the train and passengers, the center of gravity will likely be off to one side or the other.

Now that the ride has been in operation for awhile, and the park has demonstrated that the likelihood of it getting stuck is very low, they were finally able to remove the crane that has been sitting at the base of the ride since it opened. That crane was costing the park several thousand dollars a month to rent, and was required by the state. At least that monkey is now off their back:


The Superman line was very long and out the entrance. I’m guessing that’s because everyone wanted to hang out in the air conditioned station. I’m also thinking that the Superman logo has also been recently painted. It looked very bright and fresh to me:


I finally noticed one of the cell phone rechargers in the park, courtesy of the SoCal Honda Dealers, who are sponsoring Helpful Fridays all summer long. I was surprised that nobody was using it:


I spotted another one that was a bit harder to see, as it was sideways up against a building:


It was so hot that the fog machines along the Center Ring Games area were very popular:


I thought I missed out on the Share-A-Coke promotion that was at the park last weekend as part of the July 4th Fest celebration. Since it was still here, I got in line:


Each machine lets you enter your name and the name of a person that you’d like to share a Coke with. The name has to be in their database, which is quite extensive, so no nicknames. After about a minute, two mini cans of Coke are dispensed with the names you chose on the side. It’s quite a neat little souvenir that you get to take home:


Speaking of home, I seriously needed to get out of the heat and head for home. As I approached the bus pick-up, there was a bus that had just filled to capacity. The driver told those left behind that another one would be along in a few minutes. Rather than wait in the hot sun, I stood off to the side in the shade of some trees. After about five minutes, I hopped back in line because there were a lot of people showing up and I wanted to ensure that I got on the next bus. We easily waited another 10-15 minutes in the blazing hot sun before the next bus showed up. Everyone was miserable. Even if it truly was only going to be a five minute wait, the park needs to seriously consider covering all the bus stops with some shade. Everyone knows this park regularly gets to over 100 degrees during the summer. They need to consider the health of their guests and provide some shade before somebody collapses from heat stroke:


I’d also like to see the bus go all the way out to the overflow parking lot when it’s in use, as it was still quite a hike to my car from the last bus stop, but that’s a soapbox story for another day.

I was amazed at how many birds were hanging out in the far parking lot. They were everywhere! I thought it was kind of cool, but that’s only because they weren’t sitting and crapping on my car:


That’s it for this report, my friends. Now that it’s summer, don’t forget to wear sunscreen and stay hydrated when you visit Six Flags Magic Mountain. The park can get brutally hot!

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  1. Gregg

    07/15/2014 at 7:41 am

    Great update Kurt.

    Regarding the Batman trains, this is only what I’ve heard, nothing “official”, but seeing the trains it makes sense. I’m guessing when SFOT goes to off-season we will send them their trains back? . =)

    Where was the Coke thing? I must have missed it when I was there. Sadly we just missed each other … again.

    • The Coaster Guy

      07/15/2014 at 8:31 am

      Thanks, Gregg.

      I threw your Batman thoughts out there to start a dialog. I’m hoping somebody knows what’s really going on here. If you’re right, they’ll need to send our trains back as well, or at least the seats, so we can rebuild our trains. I just don’t see them doing all that extra shipping. I’d like to think the new seats are part of an upcoming theme makeover, but they just repainted Batman a couple of years ago. None of it adds up. The only thing that makes sense to me is that they refurb’d the regular trains while the backwards trains were running, and they used extra parts that were on hand, perhaps from excess inventory at SFOT, even though the colors don’t match.

      • Andrew Anderson

        07/15/2014 at 10:45 am

        My bet is they shipped the trains cause it took much longer to change the chase and they don’t want to loose ride open time especially durning the summer months. I bet we will get the backwards train MID september just in time for Fright Fest since Colloassus will be closed and normally the backwards ride is a cool fright fest special.

        • The Coaster Guy

          07/15/2014 at 2:08 pm

          I don’t think SFMM will be getting the backwards trains again, at least not until they make the rounds at the other parks.

          • A.M.99

            07/18/2014 at 11:21 am

            Agree, but, about the chassis itself, I think we will see it come back after SFOT, there is an off season at almost all the other parks with batman inverts. They will have time to take apart their chassis, and return ours

  2. Dane

    07/15/2014 at 9:58 am

    When do you think they’ll announce next year’s ride plans?

    • The Coaster Guy

      07/15/2014 at 10:07 am

      It should be the last week of August.

      • A.M.99

        07/18/2014 at 11:21 am

        Normally the last Monday of August right?

  3. Domingo

    07/15/2014 at 12:01 pm

    Kurt so for full throttle there’s supposed to be something that pushes the loop if it gets stalled or every time it a train goes on the loop because that would give us not a lot of hang time. And is the green and red paint permanent or are they taking it off when there done?

    • The Coaster Guy

      07/15/2014 at 2:10 pm

      There is nothing that pushes the loop. It’s fixed and will not move. As for the paint, it needs to stay there in case they ever need to use it.

      • Domingo

        07/15/2014 at 2:28 pm

        No not push the loop but when it gets stalled is there something that is on the loop that pushes the trains around the loop at the top sorry for not detailing my question aswell

        • The Coaster Guy

          07/15/2014 at 2:37 pm

          Nope, no mechanicals on the top of the loop. What you see in the picture is what you get.

          • Domingo

            07/15/2014 at 4:53 pm

            Do you think after the ninja incident it’s gonna effect it’s popularity?

  4. Ryan O'Neill

    07/15/2014 at 1:43 pm

    It seems that if Full Throttle managed to get stuck on top, you’d be able to push it either way fairly easily. Also, this isn’t the only coaster with a hill (duh), so why haven’t we seen this on other coasters before?

    • The Coaster Guy

      07/15/2014 at 2:15 pm

      I’m sure it has to do with the size of the loop (world’s tallest), how slow the train actually goes through it that high up, and the state of California. Trains usually have much more speed going through a loop, such as Revolution, and the chances of them coming to a complete stop while upside down is virtually nonexistent. If you’ve been on Full Throttle, you know how slow it travels through that loop.

      • A.M.99

        07/18/2014 at 11:24 am

        True, but why can’t they put LIM s up there or drive tire motors, to keep a stall from becoming a 2 hour affair

  5. josh

    07/15/2014 at 5:53 pm

    Haven’t seen or heard of a rollback for a while either..not that people announce it…..just sayin

  6. please reply

    07/15/2014 at 6:48 pm

    if a train gets stuck at the top, how WILL they push it if it gets stuck

    • The Coaster Guy

      07/15/2014 at 7:33 pm

      I imagine they’ll bring out the fire dept with a ladder truck or something similar.

      • Domingo

        07/15/2014 at 9:20 pm

        So will they ever get rid of that crane?

        • Scott C.

          07/15/2014 at 9:24 pm

          Dude!!!! Read the article:
          Quoting Kurt:
          “Now that the ride has been in operation for awhile, and the park has demonstrated that the likelihood of it getting stuck is very low, they were finally able to remove the crane that has been sitting at the base of the ride since it opened. That crane was costing the park several thousand dollars a month to rent, and was required by the state. At least that monkey is now off their back”

          • Domingo

            07/15/2014 at 9:45 pm

            Sorry I didn’t catch that I’m not going to remember every part of the article

      • Dane

        07/15/2014 at 9:53 pm

        Can you imagine getting stuck on the top of the loop. You are just hanging upside down for 15 minutes minimum.

        • Domingo

          07/15/2014 at 11:10 pm

          I can’t imagine but guess what it is literally impossible for full throttle to get stalled

          • Scott C.

            07/16/2014 at 7:08 am

            I would imagine it is very close to impossible, but it is not unprecedented. Google Demon stuck upside down. My former home park, SF Great America in Illinois had a coaster stuck upside down. If memory serves me correctly, they were stuck for a couple hours.

      • please reply

        07/16/2014 at 7:01 pm

        when that happens, it takes around 2 HOURS!!!

        • A.M.99

          07/18/2014 at 11:31 am

          I doubt they are worried about just the loop, what about the tophat

  7. Domingo

    07/16/2014 at 12:44 pm

    I know about the demon incident Scott but that was ages ago and technology has improved so much since then and full throttles loop is so bigger than demons loops that since that loop is so big it’s like an extinction for full throttle to get stalled on that loop

  8. josh

    07/16/2014 at 1:07 pm

    Kinda ka has stalled it’s far from impossible.

  9. josh

    07/16/2014 at 1:10 pm

    Correction. Top thrill dragster has stalled

    • A.M.99

      07/18/2014 at 11:33 am

      Those coaster are stratacoasters, completely different from full throttle

  10. josh

    07/16/2014 at 1:14 pm

    all the technology in the world won’t affect Momentum and gravity

    • Domingo

      07/16/2014 at 2:22 pm

      I didn’t say it’s impossible for all coasters to get stalled josh I said it’s literally impossible for full throttle to get stalled at the loop I didn’t say one thing about kinda ka and TTD.

      • Scott C.

        07/16/2014 at 2:45 pm

        I think virtually impossible…not literally impossible is more appropriate. But then again, I am not Merriam-Webster.
        Not giving you a hard time…just having fun. 🙂

        • Domingo

          07/16/2014 at 3:27 pm

          I know your not giving me a hard time I like coaster debating that’s just who I am but yeah we’re not experts so I can’t say literally your right.

          • Dane

            07/18/2014 at 4:32 pm

            Sure Full Throttle can get stuck. Its not like there are powered wheels on the track to keep the car moving. Unless there are in which case I am wrong.

  11. josh

    07/16/2014 at 2:32 pm

    Ummmm..okie dokie

  12. JJJ

    07/16/2014 at 6:07 pm

    The state just passed a law that they can fine water wasters every day because of the drought.

    think Six Flags should be fined for the jet stream waste

  13. Davis S.

    07/16/2014 at 6:19 pm

    Does anyone know if the backwards chassis will make it to Six Flags Fiesta Texas

    • A.M.99

      07/18/2014 at 11:34 am

      I imagine it will make it to every six flags park with an invert, but, who knows

  14. Matt

    07/16/2014 at 6:23 pm

    I’m concerned about the tree trimming. You probably didn’t notice, or maybe they hadn’t finished putting them up by your visit, but there are numerous trees with orange tape tied around them, undoubtedly marked for cutting down, and it’s a very noticable proportion of trees. If they cut them down, that entire part of the park will be a barren wasteland fully exposed to the unforgiving sun.

  15. chilton Schilling

    07/16/2014 at 9:39 pm

    Anyone think its possible to turn the trains on full throttle around for fright fest. Doubt its that easy but with both directional launches is it slightly possible that it is that easy? Just a thought.

    • Justin G

      07/17/2014 at 8:50 pm

      That would probably be possible but they would need different restraints on the trains that they currently have. To run Full Throttle backwards they would need to have Over The Shoulder Restraints sort of like when Superman was redone. They went from lap bar restraints to OTSRs because the launch went from forwards to backwards.

      • A.M.99

        07/18/2014 at 11:36 am

        Not necessarily, Colossians and postpone didn’t require OTSR when they went back wards, neither did Mr. Freeze Reverse Blast.

        • A.M.99

          07/18/2014 at 11:38 am

          Sorry, stupid sleep check *Colossus and *Psyclone

          • A.M.99

            07/18/2014 at 11:39 am


      • chilton Schilling

        07/18/2014 at 9:58 pm

        So what you are saying is they are going to swap the trains with revolution and full throttle for fright fest? Lol now that would be difficult with the age of the coasters let alone one is launched and the other is a chain lift. Though full throttle in reverse would be fun I think

        • A.M.99

          07/18/2014 at 10:30 pm

          No, I didn’t say that. Sorry, my device’s spell check is useless. I was saying that there are plenty of other launched coasters and coasters in general that don’t use OTSR. Plus, FT already goes backwards without OTSR.

          • chilton Schilling

            07/19/2014 at 4:48 pm

            I was just making a joke. A lot of people want the OTSR off revolution and if full throttle were to go backwards then OTSR would most likely be added. So I made the joke of swapping the trains

  16. Anonymous

    07/16/2014 at 10:37 pm

    The crane is still on park property , it’s just no longer located next to full throttle.

    • The Coaster Guy

      07/17/2014 at 8:54 am

      It’s also no longer required to be there by the state, from what I’ve been told. It’s probably just waiting to be picked up from whoever they were leasing it from.

      • Domingo

        07/17/2014 at 11:07 am

        That was one expensive crane

  17. Jason

    07/17/2014 at 10:04 am

    Are your friends allowed to go from sfmm to hh on free friend days or do u have to chose a park and stay there?

  18. Donna

    07/19/2014 at 12:18 pm

    They should leave Collosus up and stsrt a Vintage Park.

  19. Jason

    07/22/2014 at 11:29 pm

    Did they change some of the music on X2, my wife says they beastie boy song is no longer and there is more Metallica ?

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